Adding items to Colnect - IMPROVEMENT

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Adding items to Colnect - IMPROVEMENT

Postby tcawe »

:idea: :idea: :idea: Help us design a NEW FEATURE on Colnect :idea: :idea: :idea:

Our catalogs are a community effort and so they become bigger and better every hour of every day.

Currently, members have to follow our Catalog Contribution Guidelines which means they create a spreadsheet file (NIF) with all relevant information and pass it to a coordinator who reviews the information and processes it.

It has long been suggested that this method has a big disadvantage in making it hard to add a few items in and in that it has some learning curve. Its major pros are that it's easy for coordinator to review and the learning curve means more dedicated contributors so a more professional work than members who just want to upload a few missing items.

I would like to promote this long standing feature request NOW and get your help designing how it should look like. We'll together build the requirements for it and, as this can be somewhat external to Colnect's current code, I will be able to outsource this project so it'll be ready quickly.

Here's how I envision this: any member can access the "Add Items to Catalog". This example will be for "Add a New Stamp". A page opens with all fields that should be filled. Some are mandatory (country/name) and some optional (perforation). Some fields must be chosen from a list (country) and other may or may not be chosen from a list (series). Fields such as dates have their own edit gadgets. Images can be added to this page. All this works with AJAX meaning the page isn't reloaded. Warnings are issued on oddities such as expiry date before issue date (relevant in other categories) and duplicate name in catalog (it's best if all items have unique names) or duplicate catalog code (which is not allowed).

When done, the member clicks "Add to Pending Submission list" or "Add and Start Another One". Any new item opened "remembers" some of the previous choices (country/currency/...) so they don't have to be re-added every time. This "Pending submissions list shows all items the member wants to add so the member can review and correct them. An "Export to NIF" option is available if the member prefers to use a NIF later on.

After reviewing the list, the member can choose "Submit List to Coordinator" and possibly add a comment to the submission.

The coordinator view shows a list of submissions organized by submission date and showing the member who sent it and possible comments. Click on one such submission opens the list of items in it and, similar to what the member did before, the coordinator can review it and make changes. The coordinator can finally choose "Add this submission to Colnect" or "Reject this submission". Another option would be "Export to NIF" if the coordinator would prefer to use a spreadsheet editor to make fixes.

"Add this submission" adds all items and posts a message in the relevant forum.

"Reject this submission" requires a comment sent as a PM to the member explaining why this was rejected and what should be fixed.

Let me know what you think about it, what could be done better and feel free to send some screen designs if you know how to use a graphic software.

Thanks

Amir Wald - Founder of Colnect Collectors Community - Colnect, Connecting Collectors.

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Postby DarioDeSantis »

While I personally do not bother much about the way to add new items (Amir knows why :-)), I can only make a little recommendation here.

Whatever it will be of the new coming method, it will have to strictly enforce all single data entry operations and be truly fool-proof. Uppercase, lowercase, blanks, dots, commas, string format, etc... the output will have to be one no matter how fool we are.


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Postby tcawe »

I hope that with the publication of CAPI, tools to easily add items to Colnect will be made available shortly.

All such logic can be added to Colnect's current import script. Give me specific rules and I'll enforce them on new imports.

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Postby Serphil61 »

Another note: I wish it was prevented the use of the comma in the fields because otherwise any export (csv file) will be heavily compromised.


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Postby tcawe »

Having commas in the content of a CSV is fine as values are often enclosed in quotes -> "some, value, here"

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Postby MarkSt1 »

Serphil61 wrote:

Another note: I wish it was prevented the use of the comma in the fields because otherwise any export (csv file) will be heavily compromised.

It could always have a "preview" frame (so as to allow you to see what the results are (including commas and other characters that cause problems).

{enter info in one frame}

Hit Preview Button

{Second frame shows you exactly how it's going to look on the site.}

{under that frame hit the "submit" (or "Submit and add another")


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Postby Pelacanyes »

Good evening everyone

I'm on another site (plates of cava) which also are registered in the new items on line.

One of the functions there, and that all users have, you can see the items that are awaiting validation. This is very useful for various reasons, will see a new item on line (especially the theme of images) and know if you want that element upload already uploaded another companion. The codes are generated automatically from the data entered.

Maybe his functions could be added to Colnect. Only is an idea

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Postby Dana-Levitas »

I think that the automatically generated Colnect catalog code is a good idea.

The list of items awaiting validations - you mean that this will help avoid duplicates?

There are a few ways to avoid creating duplicates. We can make the system so it tries to avoid duplicates by not allowing items with identical information on so on.

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Postby footy68 »

Dana-Levitas wrote:

I think that the automatically generated Colnect catalog code is a good idea.

Sorry Dana,

but for stamps an automatically generated code isn´t a good idea.

The duplicates will rise and rise.

And the stamp collectors couldn´t compare the stamps with their own catalogue (Michel, Stanley Gibbons, Yvert & Tellier, Scott and so on.)

To add a stamp directly online instead of NIF would maybe help.

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Postby selofan »

footy68 wrote:

Dana-Levitas wrote:

I think that the automatically generated Colnect catalog code is a good idea.

Sorry Dana,

but for stamps an automatically generated code isn´t a good idea.

The duplicates will rise and rise.

Well, i dissagree.

An automatic generated code, aided by a duplicated values check routine, won't allow duplicates....

footy68 wrote:

And the stamp collectors couldn´t compare the stamps with their own catalogue (Michel, Stanley Gibbons, Yvert & Tellier, Scott and so on.)

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't colnect purpose to, in the future, override the paper catalogues???

A colector basically knows it's stamps by the stamp it self, not by the catalogue number....


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Postby MarkSt1 »

selofan wrote:

Sorry Dana,

but for stamps an automatically generated code isn´t a good idea.

The duplicates will rise and rise.

Well, i dissagree.

An automatic generated code, aided by a duplicated values check routine, won't allow duplicates....

Selo, I'm not sure what your'e refering to by "auto generated code"? I mean let's just assume you're going by catalog #'s for the code? (and I'm just picking these numbers out of my head, so they're not real)

YT-Ghana-152-{stamp information)

Mi-Ghana-285-(stamp information)

Sn-Ghana-173-(stamp information)

Might be the same stamp, but with three diferent catalog numbers... so they're duplicates in the system?

Unless I'm missing something by your Auto-Gen code?


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Postby tcawe »

Auto-generated code suggestion probably related to categories using "Colnect codes" and not categories like stamps where codes from existing catalogs are sometimes used. I oppose this idea in any category as it's important to keep responsibility over codes with the contributor/coordinator and ensure the person is thinking about the codes when adding items.

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Postby Dana-Levitas »

By "automatically generated Colnect catalog code" I meant a code that the system will generate for each item by extracting the relevant information from the items information and checking the code against existing codes.

I thought that that will help to prevent duplicate catalog codes and will enable easier uploading for everyone, but I guess that it is true that it would also help create many duplicate items. So... maybe not such a good idea.

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Postby Dana-Levitas »

I have an idea/question: what about some "Search" or "Compare" window that allows quick and easy search of the catalogs to look for the item/s one is uploading. This might encourage collectors uploading data to check before they upload an item to avoid duplicate items. If a window on the same page is too heavy, maybe a clickable icon the refers to a new tab or window labeled something like "Check for that item on the catalog".

A more complicated, less likely but possibly effective version of that could be something like "Check for similar items" - where it automatically looks for similar items by searching for items with a few key search words and displays them. I admit that is kind o improbable...

I'm not a very technically savvy person, so I am not sure if this is a good idea performance-wise.

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