The EUROPA problem

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Boolan
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The EUROPA problem

Messaggioda Boolan »

Hi again and here is that troublemaker hehe :lol:

It has come to my attention that we have a serious problem with EUROPA issues. There are TONS of illegally produced series and series made by countries outside of the EUROPA group of countries belonging as "members" of the EUROPA issuing entities.

Colnect has established the use of the Theme "C.E.P.T. / Europe" for the EUROPA issues so that visitors can bring up these member issues all in one big form.

First problem is:

The theme is not allowed to be used on all the EUROPA series that are illegal or do not belong as recognized countries by PostEurop. This has caused a major problem making the stamps that are definitely themed for EUROPA issues not being seen when using the theme emissions to find them.

My first proposal is to add the theme "EUROPA" to the list of themes.

The second problem is the theme "C.E.P.T. / Europe" itself. It SHOULD be "C.E.P.T. / Europa" with an "A" at the end....not "E".

A little history on WHY it is made with the two "words" "C.E.P.T. and Europe....

In 1956 the EUROPA concept was created. At that time C.E.P.T. was not involved. In 1959 CEPT was created and the stamps were inscribed with the CEPT logo. In and around 1993 CEPT moved on and PostEurop took over. THEIR logo being EUROPA with letters leaning to the right. You can follow this with the stamps from any country that was/is involved. Noting there are many issues with the C.E.P.T. logo on them AFTER 1993 usually celebrating the history of CEPT.

So...moving forward we should:

1.) Add the new "EUROPA" theme which can be used on every EUROPA themed stamp be it illegal, cinderella, not a member or is a member.

2.) MAKE the little change to the existing "C.E.P.T. / Europe" to "C.E.P.T. / Europa" to reduce any confusion and directly point to the actual theme of the stamps (which is not Europe). This theme remaining only to be used with the member countries as listed on the PostEurop websites and blogs.

I have discussed this in length with the EUROPA study unit webmaster Dana Roper and he is in agreement.

Your thoughts and suggestions moving forward are appreciated. Let's fix this! :idea:


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Messaggioda dietmarxx »

''First problem is:

The theme is not allowed to be used on all the EUROPA series that are illegal or do not belong as recognized countries by PostEurop. This has caused a major problem making the stamps that are definitely themed for EUROPA issues not being seen when using the theme emissions to find them.''

In my opinion this not a problem, this is the solution....


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Messaggioda footy68 »

dietmarxx ha scritto:1 settimana fa

''First problem is:

The theme is not allowed to be used on all the EUROPA series that are illegal or do not belong as recognized countries by PostEurop. This has caused a major problem making the stamps that are definitely themed for EUROPA issues not being seen when using the theme emissions to find them.''

In my opinion this not a problem, this is the solution....

yes - agreed - It is the solution


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Boolan
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Messaggioda Boolan »

Then what is your "solution" to this? Do nothing?

https://colnect.com/en/stamps/stamp/106 ... gal_Stamps

https://colnect.com/en/stamps/stamp/115 ... gal_Stamps

https://colnect.com/en/stamps/stamp/940 ... Mozambique

Just a tiny taste of EUROPA out there and listed. There are hundreds on Colnect without a theme reference. :shock:

LOOK at the themes emissions on each one. NO REFERENCE to EUROPA which is ridiculous as that is obviously what they are. Now set biases aside and look at this in an educated sense please.

Do you wish to "hide" the existence by not allowing a universal reference showing the extent of how many EUROPA issues exist good AND bad? Member and non-member?

This is why I started the thread to create a method as stated above in my first post. :|


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DJCMH
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Messaggioda DJCMH »

Maybe a second theme "Europa - Unsanctioned Issues" or something like that so that we can note the items have a Europa theme, but are not part of the canonical Europa PostEurop community

This would then allow both use for countries that are outside PostEurop but have issued legitimate stamps (such as the African countries that did series in 2006 for the 50th Anniversary) as well as for the Illegal issues.


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Boolan
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Messaggioda Boolan »

Now we are getting somewhere ^^ :)


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